You Feb.10th entry is assuming that the phrase 'Love the sinner, hate the sin' somehow means to condone, accept, overlook, 'gloss over', or ignore the sin. Some people may try to separate the two using that phrase, but you have to remember that God LOVED us while we were yet SINNERS. He acknowledged that we were sinners, and Christians are to acknowledge that in themselves and others, but to love as Christ loved us requires loving sinners, and as we all know, everyone's a sinner. I don't know who took that phrase out of context, but it's incorrect to say that you can separate 'sin' from 'sinner'. Strange that we would both use the crucifixion scene for both sides of this discussion, but...what the world means by 'love the sinner, hate the sin', means exactly what you just said; separate the two, give them a way out, etc. But God means it differently. He loved the sinner and died for the sin. But He DID NOT say that, "oh, well, you know that's ok. I love you so I'll overlook that" His Love is bigger than that. It wasn't enough for him to know we were sinners, He had to save us from that. Love, true love, does what's best for the other person, group, etc. If someone offers a sinner a way out by telling him that he doesn't have to be responsible for his actions, that we will accept him and just "hate the sin", that his sins are not part of him, they are separate and he need not worry about ever seeking forgiveness or repenting, that's NOT love. I don't know any other descriptive term for it other than to say that this world full of liberals and bleeding hearts, does NOT CARE. The world (unfortunately, in this case, literally) can go to a Devil's Hell, and as long as they're getting what they want nothing else matters. I think you could say that the phrase "love the sinner, hate the sin" is originally a godly chistian phrase, but his world has, as I said, turned it around to mean something else entirely. I just wanted to say that, because I was getting the impression that you think some/all/most Christians follow this worldly line of reasoning, but it's not so. I happen to know some who do, but people like that may very well be the exception to the rule. I hope.